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A comparsion of the german and the irish Jugger Rulebook

A few months ago when I came back from a training I though about all that stuff that we discuss very often. But in the four weeks I spend in Dublin we had not one discussion like this. So I started to compare the Rulebooks.
The version of the irish Rulebook I used was written by Peter Houlihan. This version isn't final but there will be an election about his Rulebook.
Let's start with the point that everybody knew who played once against an irish team. In irish Jugger an double is only a double if the two players hit each other exactly in the same moment. Here I always have the discussion if it's a double or not if I hit somebody with my chain first, but he hits he too. "Was it a half second or not?" Who can make that decision? In this point I think the irish rule is more practicable and more precisely. Here's the part from the irish rules:
The first player to hit the other wins, no matter how close behind the other player was. However if two hits land so close together that the gap between them cannot be distinguished they are considered to have „doubled“ [...]. Either player may call a double and if they insist (if they call it three times or more) both players must accept the double [...]. Also, if one player hits another at the same time as they strike a third the second two players are considered hit.
Another point that is discussed on every tournament is about  standing up: A few say you're risen once you stretch your leg, the others say you're risen when you made the first step. And a few others mean you're risen when you make the first move. Once again the irish rules are more precisely:
 After a player has completed their count they must attempt to rise immediately if they are unpinned, runners are exempt from this and may stay down as long as they wish. When rising a player may block with their spar as soon as their knee is off the ground, but their hits will not count until half a stone after they have begun their rise. 
Well, now we could discuss if it's need's to be a half stone or if that's a too long time to rise, but in this way you don't get a discussion when you're risen or not. In my point of view that's better than the german version.
For the runners it's allowed to stay down tactically. The same for spar players but only if another spar player is in range, after that he must rise immediately. In the german rulebook there isn't an exact definition:
 Den Spielern ist es erlaubt, aus taktischen Gründen über die Strafzeit hinaus knien zu bleiben. Für die Dauer des Kniens dürfen Spieler nur gepinnt werden. 
In comparison the part from the irish rulebook:
 Other players have the option of staying down if another spar player is already within hitting distance. For fixed spars this means that the spar player could touch the rising player without moving their feet, for chain players this means that the chain is within range and half a swing of the rising player.
Another little difference is about pinning. In the german rulebook is written that you can't pin two people at the same time. In the irish rulebook it is:
 Only one player may be pinned with one spar at a time however a player with two short swords [but not q-tips] may pin two other players. 
That could be useful if you have someone who is good with two short swords.
And what about the chains? In irish rules only a 180° wrap counts as a hit, and if you wrap a spar the first 360° count as a hit if the ball gets you. In my point of view we should add this to the german rulebook and as I know a few teams already handle it this way.
Now the differences for the runners. A point in irish Jugger counts once the skull is in the goal, not when no runner touches it:
 A runner is considered to have scored from the moment any part of the skull enters the goal.
Another point is that if you leave the court within the range of a chain you must get down for eight stones.
And about the stones, according to irish rules a stone is 2 seconds and not 1,5 as in the german rules. Also there aren't any limitations for changing players. And the last point is that the court lines aren't part of the pitch.
At the end I can say that in the german rules is more space for interpretation and that the most rules in the irish rulebook are easier. I for my part prefer the irish rulebook.



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International tournament in Spain

Hello all,

After some time of work, here you have the publicity of the first Spanish International Tournament.



Also I copy the information that HL have posted in the forums with information:

Hello there!

The Aragoness Jugger Asociation is preparing the International Zaragoza Tournament, which will take place in Leciñena (a town 20min away from Zaragoza) during the 2nd and 3th of April. The Registration fee will be 5 € per person, and each team has to bring his own equipation. The Tournament itself will be played the 2nd and part of the 3th of April (Saturday and Sunday) in the Football Field of Leciñena. There is a Sports Hall/Pabillion where we can sleep (and play the Tournamente in case of bad weather) for free, however anybody willing to pay de Hostel-like stablishment will be able to sleep in a warm bed XD. Any doubts, questions or even sugestions you have, please feel free to share them with me (if you prefer in English; no german sorry) and we'll see what we can do.

Once that's been said, I would like to ask you a couple of things. Do you know how are you gonna come? How many teams, players and/or fans are you gonna come? If you need help with anything at all: contacts, special diets, jugger material or slipping material; please feel free to ask us and we'll find a solution together.

See you soon.
Greetings, HL


Hope we can see you in the field.

2011

Happy new year! Frohes Neues Jahr! ¡feliz año nuevo!

Quite a bit has happened in 2010, the community in Span is growing rapidly, more and more teams are forming - we may look forward to an interesting new year 2011! Happy Dog skull hunting!

As a personal side note, thanks to all who contributed to the new book on Jugger with interviews, photos and other input. Great!

Jugger in Amsterdam

Jugger has arrived in Amsterdam 1,5 years ago. Two Jugger players form Münster in Germany moved to Amsterdam after they played Jugger in Münster for a long time. After they got used to life in Amsterdam, they started building weapons and promote Jugger. Now there are always enough players to play at least 3 against 3 or some training games.
At the weekend of the 16./17. October two people (@nalfion and @p0Ldi_MS) from Münster visited Amsterdam. They brought a strong chain with them, since you can only buy chains with a small diameter in the Netherlands, probarbly the same problem as in Spain.
On the first day we built the chains and on the second day we trained in the Martin-Luther-Kingpark, you can watch pictures of this training on flickr.
If you want to join the training there is a doodle and a forum to coordinate the trainings, so feel free to use them and join the training.

Jugger in Spain

Greetings from Spain, players and Jugger fans over the world!

It’s been a while since our last post with news about the development of Jugger in our country. This wonderful sport has been spread faster than expected, and now there are great teams and brand-new tournaments in a few cities and towns, but the most activity it’s focused on Valencia, Zaragoza and the capital, Madrid.

Let’s write a bit about the different competitions that are running nowadays.

The main tournaments are the National ones. There are three of them over the year, and each one is independent from the others. They’re called Winter Tournament (Zaragoza), Summer Tournament (Valencia) and “Tuna” Tournament (Madrid). The name of the “tuna” one comes from a pun in Spanish, as “tuna” is said “atun” in our language, a word with a similar spelling as the word “autumn”.




The champions in the last editions of the national tournaments were Old Ducks in Zaragoza (with finalists Plan B and Black Dragons), and Black Dragons in Valencia (with finalist Spuggers).

The first “Atun” Tournament will be held on October 23th in the Juan Carlos I Park, starting at 10am. This event seems to be the first ever to join together teams representing all Spain, including some of the most veterans. Since today, eight teams have confirmed their assistance. If you’re interested in it, check the Jugger Madrid forum

In Valencia exists another kind of regional competition: the JuggerSlam is a set of three tournaments wit a playoff system that run from September to March. The scores are accumulative, so the team with most points at the end of the season is the ultimate champion. The first competition, Senpai Tournament, was played on September 25th, and the results left Valencia Juggernauts as the champion (7 points), with finalists Black Dragons (6 points) and Skatmen (4 points). You can check the matches, player’s hit ratios and more information in the JuggerSlam website
http://juggerslam.info




Also, there are two Leagues running at this time in Zaragoza and Valencia. The one located in Valencia is the biggest, as 18 teams compete for the Best Team title in the city. Valencia League started on October 3rd, and will last until early June with games each Sunday in the Turia River’s fields. Follow the league’s progress entering in its website, which is updated weekly with news, interviews and photographs (http://www.wix.com/avjugger/liga-valenciana-de-jugger).


As you can see, Spain has welcomed Jugger with expectation and hard work. Each city or tournament still has a few “home rules”, but we’re working together to unite Jugger definitely. Our players are improving their skills, so don’t surprise yourselves if you find any of us in an international tournament sooner rather than later, rising to the top.

Since that day, salutes from the Spain Jugger!

Text by Pedro Kat

Jugger Tournament in Valencia

Here is a nice clip from the Jugger tournament in Valencia. Skatmen vs. Spuggers. Looks impressive! Keep it going!
(You got a goat as Stone Counter? Wow!)

Pressemitteilung / 13. Deutsche Jugger-Meisterschaft in Berlin

Jugger LigaAus der Pressemitteilung des Jugger e.V. Berlin:

Am 10., 11. und 12. September 2010 wird im Friedrich-Ludwig-Jahn Sportpark Berlin die 13. Deutsche Jugger-Meisterschaft ausgetragen. Der Eintritt ist frei.

zuschauer Mit armdick gepolsterten Schlägern und über drei Meter langen Ketten werden am zweiten Septemberwochenende über 30 Mannschaften im Kampf um den Deutschen Meistertitel antreten. Mit dabei sind Teams aus Irland und dem fernen Australien.
Besonders spannend wird das Finale am Sonntag, wo ab 13 Uhr die beiden besten Teams auf dem tribünengesäumten Feld im Kampf um die geschweißte Meister-Trophäe aufeinandertreffen.

Die Jagd auf einen Hundeschädel zieht immer
mehr junge Sportler an. Jugger ist ein neuer, lebensfroher Sport, schnell, dramatisch und ungeheuer vielseitig. Über 300 Aktive reisen an, um zum Höhepunkt der Saison den Wettkampf in einem postapokalyptischen Sport zu bestreiten. Ein Sport, bei dem vier Kämpfer die gegnerische
Mannschaft mit mannshohen Stäben und einer Kette in Schach halten, während ein Läufer den Ball namens „Jugg“ ins Platzierfeld trägt.

Es handelt sich dabei keineswegs um eine neumodische Spinnerei oder um das künstlich designte Objekt einer Marketingabteilung. Sondern um ein lebendiges Gewächs und ein Hobby mit stark wachsender Anhängerschaft, das derzeit vornehmlich in Parks gespielt und über Eigeninitiativen an Unis und in Schulen weiterverbreitet wird.

Sie finden zahlreiche Videos von Turnierspielen unter anderem im Kanal "Juggerliga" auf Youtube sowie auf Flickr.

Wir senden Ihnen gerne Photos aus unserem Archiv zu. Wenn Sie vor Ort berichten möchten, melden Sie sich beim Jugger e.V., Regensburger Str. 33, 10777 Berlin, Tel: 030 43 73 46 20, E-Mail: lester at jawaka.net, Website: http://jugger.de

Jagd auf den Läufer

Druckfrisch: Das zweite Buch zum Jugger-Sport

Jugger ist keine Sache für Verrückte – aber schon etwas Besonderes. Ihre Begeisterung haben Spielerinnen und Spieler, Sporttrainer, aber auch Pädagogen in dem Buch geäußert, das zeitgleich im September im Berliner Archiv der Jugendkulturen erscheinen wird.
Wickenhäuser, Ruben Philipp: Jugger. Der Sport aus der Endzeit, Archiv der Jugendkulturen, Berlin 2010 [ Beschreibung ]

12. Deutsche Juggermeisterschaft


13. Deutsche Meisterschaft - Flyer vorn

13. Deutsche Meisterschaft - Flyer hinten

Third Jugger Ireland Tournement

Due to... funsized numbers of attendees the third Jugger Ireland tournement was held in Fairview last week, with two teams competeing. Spirits were high and the weather was beautiful despite heavy wind which rendered the use of chains impossible. Two teams were selected and the match was progressing wonderfully until two injuries and one infirmity put an end to the game. Last known score was 6/4 against Mark's team. The game was followed up by a barbeque and good times were had by all. There will be a mini tournement (twice the size of the real one) with the Australians on September 6th at the same location as a warm up for Berlin. As always anyone is welcome.